Consultation Prep

Context, questions, and references for clinic consultations.

Consultation Schedule

📝 OUR CASE SUMMARY

Key facts to share with each clinic. Most have received medical records already.

  • PatientAndrea, female, originally from Hong Kong (East Asian ethnicity)
  • DiagnosisSecondary infertility, diminished ovarian reserve (DOR)
  • AFC~4 (low)
  • AMHLow-end for age (updated results sent to clinics)
  • TubesBlocked (identified on HSG)
  • Existing childYes — Nathan (hence secondary infertility)
  • PartnerAdam — standard SA presumably normal (86% fert rate with conventional IVF, not ICSI)
  • Previous IVF1 cycle at Grace Fertility, Vancouver (Mar 2026) — negative outcome
  • Goal2–3 retrieval cycles for embryo banking + PGT-A, then FET
  • Travel planBased in Hungary, travel to clinic for retrieval. Monitoring locally in HU.
  • TimelineStart stim late May / early June 2026
📊 GRACE FERTILITY CYCLE 1 — REFERENCE DATA
Key concern: 0 of 6 fertilized embryos reached blastocyst. This is the central question for every clinic: what would you do differently?
Eggs
7
retrieved
Fertilized
6
86% (conventional)
Day 2
4
of 6 developing
Transferred
3
Day 3 fresh
Blastocysts
0
of 6 total
Outcome
Negative
Apr 4

Attrition Funnel

Eggs retrieved7
Fertilized (conventional IVF)686%
Developing at Day 2467% of fert.
Transferred (Day 3)38c leader + two 3c
Remaining in culture3
Reached blastocyst (Day 5+)00% blast rate
Implanted0

Protocol Used

TypeMinimal stim + antagonist
Stim medsClomid 50 mg (AM) + Puregon (follitropin beta)
Puregon dosingAlternating 200/400 IU for first week, then flat 200 IU. Dr. Cheung's rationale: more hormones wouldn't recruit additional follicles at that point.
AntagonistOrgalutran, added stim day 9 (when lead hit 13 mm)
Stim duration~14 days (Mar 5–18)
TriggerOvidrel (HCG), Mar 18, 11:30 PM
IndomethacinStarted trigger day (Mar 18), last dose Mar 19 — prevents premature ovulation before retrieval
MonitoringUS #1 (day 5): 6–8 follicles ~7.5 mm. US #2 (day 9): lead 13 mm (R), cohort 7–8 mm (L).
Follicle syncSignificant asynchrony — lead on right ran ahead while left cohort lagged by ~5 mm. Stim extended to let left side catch up.
PrimingLetrozole (CD3–7, Feb 8–12), then estradiol suppression from CD21 (Feb 26)
FertilizationConventional IVF (not ICSI)
TransferDay 3 fresh (3 embryos). Lining was good. No PGT-A.
Embryo qualityLeader: 8-cell, 16/20. Others: 3-cell 15/20, 3-cell 14/20 (significantly lagging).
Luteal supportCrinone gel (progesterone) 2x daily from retrieval (Mar 20) through period (Apr 4)
🔬 EGG QUALITY VS. SPERM — HOW TO FIND OUT

The 0/6 blastocyst outcome could be egg quality, sperm DNA integrity, or both. Here's what the evidence points to and what tests can narrow it down.

Bottom line: Age and DOR make egg quality the leading hypothesis, but sperm DNA fragmentation is a cheap, easy test that can be done before you fly. If it comes back high, it changes the approach. If normal, you've ruled it out and can focus fully on egg quality optimization.
HypothesisEvidence for/againstHow to test
Egg quality
DOR diagnosis, low AFC. 2/3 Day 3 embryos severely lagging (3-cell). Follicle asynchrony suggests some eggs may have been over/under-mature at retrieval. 0/6 blast rate is consistent with compromised oocytes.
No direct test for egg quality pre-retrieval. Indirectly assessed through response to stim, embryo development patterns, and PGT-A results across cycles. A different protocol that improves follicle synchrony is the main lever.
Sperm DNA fragmentation Possible
86% fertilization rate with conventional IVF (no ICSI) means sperm can penetrate eggs fine. But DNA fragmentation doesn't show up on SA or fertilization rate — sperm can fertilize normally but carry damaged DNA that causes embryo arrest at the Day 3–5 transition (when the paternal genome activates).
Sperm DNA fragmentation test — simple lab test, results in days. Can be done in Canada before departure or at the Czech clinic. Ask each clinic if they offer it.

If high: lifestyle changes (3 months lead time), antioxidants, shorter abstinence before sample, or TESE in extreme cases.
Lab/culture conditions Possible but hard to assess
Lab quality varies between clinics. Culture media, incubator type, and embryologist skill all matter. Switching clinics inherently tests this.
Ask each clinic for their blastocyst rate (specifically for DOR patients). Ask about time-lapse incubators, culture media, and whether they culture to Day 6–7 for slow growers.
Protocol-related Possible contributing factor
Clomid can affect oocyte quality in some patients. Alternating doses may have caused uneven follicle recruitment. Follicle asynchrony meant some eggs were likely over/under-mature. Stim was extended to 14 days (long).
Try a different protocol next cycle — this is what you're consulting about. Pure gonadotropin (no Clomid), consistent dosing, different trigger type are all levers.

Action items before Europe

  • Sperm DNA fragmentation test for Adam — can be done at LifeLabs or a fertility clinic in Vancouver. Do this before departure so results are available.
  • Ask each clinic what they think caused the 0/6 outcome. Compare their differential diagnoses — a thoughtful answer is a signal of clinic quality.
  • Note: You won't get a definitive "egg vs. sperm" answer from one failed cycle. But ruling out sperm DNA fragmentation narrows the picture, and trying a different protocol tests the egg quality / protocol hypothesis.
📋 QUESTIONS FOR CLINICS

Check off as you ask. State persists per clinic — switch tabs to track separately.

Must Ask The blastocyst failure

  • We got 7 eggs, 6 fertilized, and zero blastocysts. What does that tell you?
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    Force them to interpret your data. A good doctor will ask follow-up questions about dosing and timing. A generic answer ("sometimes it happens") is a yellow flag.
  • Was this likely egg quality, sperm DNA integrity, or a lab/culture issue?
    context
    You want their differential diagnosis. See the "Egg vs Sperm" section above for background on each hypothesis.
  • Our protocol was minimal stim (Clomid + Puregon 200 IU). Do you think that contributed?
    context
    Europe IVF International already said they'd use higher doses. See if this clinic agrees and why.
  • Is 7 eggs from AFC ~4 a good response, or was she understimulated?
    context
    7 from AFC ~4 is nearly double baseline — actually a strong recruit. The question is whether a different protocol could improve quality, not just quantity.
  • Two of three Day 3 embryos were only 3-cell (should be 6–8). What causes that?

Must Ask Ethnicity & protocol personalization

  • How many East Asian patients have you treated? What was your experience with dosing?
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    "We treat everyone the same" = yellow flag. East Asian women often have different FSH sensitivity. You want a doctor who acknowledges this and adjusts accordingly.
  • What starting gonadotropin dose would you use, and why?
    context
    Grace used alternating 200/400 then flat 200 IU. Europe IVF said higher. Get this clinic's number and rationale. Compare across all consultations.
  • How frequently do you monitor in the first few stim days?
    context
    Early monitoring (day 4–5) catches dose miscalibration before it creates follicle asynchrony. Important for a patient profile they may see less often.
  • We had a 5 mm follicle size gap (lead 13 mm, cohort 7–8 mm). How would you prevent that?
  • Would you use a consistent daily dose rather than alternating days?
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    Alternating 200/400 IU may contribute to uneven follicle development. Most aggressive protocols use a flat daily dose.

Must Ask Sperm quality

  • Do you recommend sperm DNA fragmentation testing given our 0/6 blastocyst rate?
    context
    86% fert rate with conventional IVF (no ICSI) suggests sperm function is good at the fertilization stage. But DNA fragmentation doesn't affect fertilization — it causes embryo arrest at Day 3–5 when the paternal genome activates. Cheap test, can do at LifeLabs before departure.

Important Protocol & strategy

  • DuoStim vs. sequential cycles — which do you recommend for DOR?
    context
    DuoStim is faster but the second retrieval may yield very few additional eggs with DOR. Also requires freeze-all (no fresh transfer option).
  • Would you use Clomid again, or switch to letrozole or pure gonadotropins?
    context
    Clomid is anti-estrogenic — can thin lining (relevant for fresh transfer) and may affect oocyte quality in some patients.
  • What trigger would you use — HCG, Lupron, or dual trigger?
    context
    Trigger choice affects final oocyte maturation and OHSS risk. Dual trigger may improve maturity rates for DOR.
  • Dr. Cheung said more gonadotropins wouldn't help past week 1. Do you agree, or would you start higher?
    context
    The "ceiling effect" debate for DOR: once follicles are recruited, more FSH won't help. But a higher starting dose might recruit more before atresia. Different question.
  • Any supplements or priming to start now? (CoQ10, DHEA, growth hormone?)

Important Lab & embryology

  • What is your blastocyst rate for DOR patients specifically?
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    Overall blast rate is less relevant. DOR patients have lower rates — you want to know how this clinic performs with patients like you.
  • Do you use time-lapse incubators?
  • Do you culture to Day 6 or 7 for slow-growing embryos?
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    Some DOR embryos are viable but slow. If a lab only cultures to Day 5, they may discard embryos that would have made it with one more day.
  • PGT-A — in-house or external lab? Turnaround time?
  • What's your freeze-thaw survival rate?

Ask If Time Logistics & cost

  • How soon after CD1 can stim start?
  • Any pre-arrival testing needed beyond what we've sent?
  • Can monitoring be done in Hungary with results sent to you?
  • Can meds be sourced in Hungary?
  • Multi-cycle pricing / discount structure?
  • Full cost breakdown: cycle + meds + ICSI + PGT-A + storage?
  • Can embryos be shipped to Canada for future FET?
  • Can PGT-A reveal embryo sex?
  • Storage duration, annual cost, future FET logistics?
🏥 PER-CLINIC NOTES

Clinic-specific things to ask or flag based on communications so far.

★ Reprofit International (Brno) — Full consultation notes

Consulted Apr 14 — Dr. Frank Kamil via Teams
  • Records confirmed received (incl. updated AMH). Ready to go.
  • Price range is wide (3,245–7,775 EUR) — clarify what's included at each tier
  • Ask about their experience with international patients doing multi-cycle banking

★ IVF Cube (Prague) — Doctor consultation notes (Apr 17) · Pre-consult notes (Apr 14)

Consulted Apr 17 — Dr. Eva Stasna via Whereby
  • Very positive impression — both Andrea and Adam rated the doctor and clinic highly
  • Strong confidence in lab quality (SHARE certificate, only one in CZ per doctor)
  • Protocol: antagonist + FSH/LH, Pergoveris preferred (Menopur as cheaper alternative), 225u starting dose, keep estrogen priming (cycle day 21-22)
  • No clomid, no alternating doses (single dose approach)
  • ICSI always used; microfluidic sperm separation standard
  • Sperm DNA fragmentation not needed — Adam's sample "enormous", healthy lifestyle
  • PGT-A: 3,300 EUR per batch — bank ≥4 embryos first, then test together
  • Not a fan of DuoStim — prefers back-to-back cycles (3 OK if tolerated)
  • Realistic plan: 2 stimulations minimum, 3 for reserve
  • Logistics: HU monitoring fine w/ any gynecologist, 1 night in Prague per retrieval, EU-valid e-prescriptions
  • Pricing: 3,300 EUR/cycle + meds. No multi-cycle discount. Only 1 transfer included in total course
  • Storage: 10yr max (CZ limit); age cutoff 49
  • Sex selection workaround: PGT-A for age indication, patient has right to full documentation ("lucky number" request)
  • Next: coordinator to send informed consents; confirm Budapest monitoring doctor if they have one

★ ReproGenesis (Brno) — Full consultation notes

Consulted Apr 15 — Dr. Martin Maderka via Teams
  • Very positive impression — excellent bedside manner, thorough, non-pushy
  • Recommends: ICSI, consistent 300u FSH (Menopur), PGT-A freeze-all, assisted hatching
  • DuoStim available — best saved for last cycle due to physical toll
  • Double trigger option (GnRH agonist + Ovidrel) since no fresh transfer
  • HU monitoring confirmed OK — coordinator to recommend Budapest doctor
  • No waiting list. Back-to-back cycles OK.
  • Sex selection "somehow possible" via PGT-A (not officially legal in CZ)
  • DNA fragmentation for Adam — recommended, results in a few days, needed before retrieval
  • Karyotype for both — can do at clinic, no delay
  • Pricing felt very reasonable (Adam). 50 EUR consult fee also fair.
  • Target: ~10 euploid embryos, may need up to 5 stim cycles
  • Next: ask coordinator re Budapest monitoring doctor & multi-cycle discount

IVF Zlin

Apr 20, 10:20 AM Czech / 1:20 AM PT — WhatsApp call with Anna (+420 777 178 128, rescheduled from Apr 17)
  • Missing tests: day 2/3 hormonal profile, thrombophilic mutations, Adam's Hep B
  • Base cycle 2,500 EUR — lowest quoted. Ask what's included.
  • Smaller city clinic — ask about lab volume, blastocyst rates, equipment

Repromeda (Brno) — Coordinator consult done Apr 22 · Doctor call Thu May 7, 11:30 CET

Adéla Kupka (Zoom). Doctor call confirmed May 7 at 11:30 CET (2:30 AM PT) — Adam accepted the inconvenient time Apr 24 after Adéla said clinic fully booked with no earlier availability. Full notes
  • 5/5 impression from coordinator call — frontrunner tier with IVF Cube + ReproGenesis
  • Unique: MOON method (individual-egg fertilization timing, €375/cyc) and in-house PGT lab
  • Three package tiers (see notes for full breakdown): ICSI €5,417 / SpermPacket €5,792 / All-Inclusive €9,792 — all with PGT-A up to 8 embryos
  • Adéla recommended SpermPacket as default (MACS + ZymotChip + PICSI)
  • Karyotype mandatory (€522, one-time) — only included in All-Inclusive
  • Storage: €125/yr after year 1, no time cap
  • Single-embryo transfer only, 100% of cases (fresh or frozen)
For doctor call
  • Sex selection: Adéla said preferences can be noted for the embryologist. Confirm with doctor what's actually possible under CZ law.
  • Continuity of care: Independent reviews flag inconsistent doctor assignment. Ask: "Will I have the same treating doctor across all cycles?"
  • Protocol: Adéla expects long protocol + DuoStim likely. Confirm with doctor.
  • Multi-cycle discount: Adéla to ask financial director — follow up.

Europe IVF International (Prague)

Consulted Apr 9 — summary received Apr 13
  • Already consulted. Dr. Vobroska Jana: higher doses than Grace, short antagonist day 7–8, ICSI
  • No estrogen priming needed (no prep cycle)
  • Multi-cycle: 2,990 / 2,641 / 2,641 EUR. PGT-A pkg 2,000 EUR (up to 5 embryos)
  • Use as your baseline for comparing other clinics' recommendations

Unica Clinic (Brno) — Consult done Apr 29

Apr 29, 3 PM Czech / 6 AM PT — Teams — Doctor (name TBC) + Joanna Watkowska
  • 2+1 deal confirmed: €9,500 for 3 cycles, biopsy + 1 embryo PGT-A per cycle included; +€425 each additional embryo
  • Joanna very sharp — strongest coordinator on the slate. Doctor was fine but unremarkable
  • Protocol: stable dose (no 200/400 alternation), higher gonadotropins, Pergoveris, ICSI always, MSS/Zymot chip
  • HU monitoring partial: 1st US OK in HU, 2nd US (CD10/11) must be in Brno — implies a longer single CZ stay
  • >50% of Brno patients are Hungarian; clinic since 1991, >10,000 babies
  • Updated price list + doctor's name + planned dose to arrive Apr 30 from Joanna
  • See full notes
📚 QUICK REFERENCE

Why ethnicity matters for IVF protocol

  • East Asian women often have higher ovarian sensitivity to FSH — standard European doses can over- or understimulate
  • FSHR gene polymorphisms vary by ethnicity, affecting dose-response
  • AMH can read higher relative to actual retrievable follicle count in East Asian women
  • BMI and body composition differences affect medication pharmacokinetics
  • Czech clinics treat predominantly European patients — their defaults are calibrated accordingly

DuoStim overview

  • Two stim + retrieval cycles within one menstrual cycle (~3–4 weeks total)
  • Faster embryo banking, good for travel-based IVF
  • Requires freeze-all (no fresh transfer)
  • Caveat for DOR: second retrieval may yield very few additional eggs

Europe IVF International recommendations (baseline for comparison)

  • Higher hormone doses than Grace cycle
  • No estrogen priming / no prep cycle before IVF
  • Short antagonist protocol starting day 7–8
  • ICSI recommended over conventional IVF
  • HU monitoring OK if local doctor available
  • Meds can be sourced in Canada, Czech Republic, or Hungary
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